i'll draw a big line, cleveland, the cleveland suburbs and to a lesser degree down here to the south in the akron area people without power, put it to the same test, how did they vote in 2008, you see some republicans in the more rural counties but across the top of the state the northern part of the state heavy democratic areas, our producer called out too cuyahoga today early voting down a bit today than it was four years ago so you see some obvious immediate impact. the question is again, with the few more days to go, five more days can they get this fixed come election day. one more quick example in the northern virginia suburbs and again to the naked eye it tells the story. still a lot of people out right on the northern washington d.c. area, right there, fairfax county, arlington, go back four years, you see all that blue, this is the area most critical to president obama. he has to win the state of virginia, has to be a high turnout. when you call into the communities they think they'll get it fixed in time for tuesday but something to keep an eye on. >> john when you talked t